2022 Rulebook Proposals Please submit your proposals here. rules are.... 1) Quote the section(s) and sub section to be edited 2) If it is a "new" proposal, please include the section it would be submitted to 3) The "wording" should be as accurate as possible 4) You MUST me a WMRC member that holds a current membership Thank you for your input! Deadline for submissions will be December 15, 2021
Changed 16.1 WMRC utilizes the MyLaps (formerly known as AMB) timing and scoring system. Compatible transponders are limited to the AMB TranX 260, X2 Car/Bike and TR2 Car/Bike transponders. Use of RC4 or TranX 160 transponders is not recommended. X2 or TR2 transponders other than Car/Bike will be automatically rejected by the timing system and not scored. New 16.10 In the event of failure of a timing mechanism, the Referee shall decide the method by which competitors are classified. This decision is not subject to protest or appeal.
Not exactly a rule change, but I would like to start the discussion: Exiting the track at turn 7 instead of turn 9. With the drifters putting in new track, it allows an exit at T7 very easy and does not interfere with a racer on a good lap. Same procedure, put your hand up at the exit of T6 and then go straight through and veer to the left. Anyone staying on track will see that you have left the track and can focus on T8 + T9. Personally, I feel in the way of other racers during a practice when I exit at T9. I tried the T7 exit last season and found it very easy, and more importantly, safer. I have spoken to other racers about this with positive reactions. Discuss......
Open Classic Superbike was a failure last season. I propose dropping the class and reinstating 600’s 15yrs and older including the kawasaki 636 in Middleweight Superbike like it was in previous seasons.
Just a thought….sort of a proposal. Formula 1.13 class. Follows the same guidelines as F1.18, and F1.15. I think it would be a great class for riders making their way towards the Superbike classes as well as the faster 600’s.
As 15 yr 600's have more Hp and are lighter then the new ones, I would propose changing the Classic to 600 Sbk and allow newer 600's to race. This would give 600's another competitive class vs racing 1000's. I think this would be better then adding a Formula 1:13 class, which is a non points class towards overall club championship.
I get what you’re saying but I disagree with adding another 600 class. My proposal was merely to get more bikes out on the track at once. Not these classes that have 3-4 bikes in that race which then needs grid fillers. I do agree a lot of racers care about overall club points…..however there’s also a lot of racers that don’t care about club points.
That doesn't make sense, since 600 already have a class, 7.6 600 Supersport. F1:13 is more open to skill based rather than machine based. F1:18 and F1:15 are great for learning and progressing. Plus, not everyone racing is worried about club championship points, most of us just like to have fun.
Yes, 600's have one class only. The classic sbk bikes can run 118, 115, 600ss, open superbike, open ss, ultra. Lots of place for you to ride if you are not interested in points. once you are under 115's lots of room to practice in the open class'. If you want lots of bikes to race with, twins and lw bikes rule.
My classic SBK can't run in 600SS. The 600s can run in all those classes. F1:18 and F1:15 don't get you points, the rest do. What is your reasonable objection to a F1:13? Which classes are you racing in next season?
So what you are saying Reed is that if I want lots of bikes to race with then buy another race bike to run in the twins/lw?? If club points are so important then why not run every class as a points class. That way it makes your race position so much more competitive ♂️ Personally I don’t care about club points but it might make for a more interesting year
I suggested running a 600sbk class which used the current classic open rules for older 750's and 1000's. these bikes would be similar in lap times vs running against sv's in mw sbk. The objection with 113 class is you would be running times that would be decent in the open ss, open sbk and ultra giving you plenty of track time if you are in it for fun. My bikes will be run in whichever class's we have time for, mw twins, mw sbk, 600, open ss, open sbk, ultra. We may even bring a ulw racer too. We will run at emra, wmrra, omrra, motoamerica if you want to come join us and race against the best in the west.
My Point was the lw bikes have the bigger grids. There are currently classes for you to ride your current bike in, but choose not to. The club does not have more time on the track and other class (600) have less class available to ride in and be competitive. Bracket racing is fine if you are not serious, but the mix of bikes can be dangerous.
So Reed if you plan on running all those tracks and competing with the best then go do that. By the sounds of it you don’t have time for WM Reed with all those tracks and MotoAmerica it doesn’t seem like WMRC is your main focus so why don’t you just go do that and leave us “non serious racers” be!
Stick to the conversation on the rules buddy. Clubs are allowed to have different opinions. That’s why rule changes are voted on. Where and when we race is not up to you.
Hey all, as the rules book committee chair and club VP I just want to remind everyone to play nice on these forums. Discussions ( even spirited ) are welcome and even encouraged but personal attacks won't be tolerated. Please post constructively .
Just want to post a couple of my thoughts regarding rule changes that I have been having. I welcome everyone's feedback/ideas/suggestions/changes, rules should reflect the feelings of the people affected by them. I will preface this by saying that my belief has been or years that everyone racing at our club level should have ONE class that their ( if well -ridden ) bike ( if you're wanting to race a Hodaka W125 Wombat or something similarly oddball then this does not apply to you ) is competitive and able to win a championship in. Any additional class(es) where the same bike is competitive should be seen as a bonus. 1. Open Classic Superbike was brought in last year to be a compromise in order to let SV's be competitive in the main class they have been running in for years for 1 more year as a transition year ( Middleweight Superbike ). The longstanding rules for MWSB ( that I came up with over 10 years ago ) allowed 15 year old 600s and 20 year old 750s and bigger to also compete. With the older 600s and larger bikes at time of rule implementation not being as competitive , SVs ( especially the Superbike spec ones that are legal for the class ) have more than capable of seeing off the challenges from the larger bikes over the past 10 years or so . However, time stands still for no one ( or no bike ) . SVs are now over 20 years old ( 1999 was the first year of production ) and we are seeing fewer and fewer of them on the grid whereas we are seeing more of the older inline 4s that need to have a class they can be competitive in and have more than 3 entries ( a lot of this is also overall race entry # related ) . So what I'm thinking of is this: MWSB : 15 year old 600s, 20 + year old 750-and up( SVs of course can enter still ). SBK rules. MWT : Twins up to 750 cc. SBK engine rules up to 700cc, Supersport engine rules over 700cc. Chassis modifications unlimited. This brings the playing field to a same level-ish 90-95 hp at the wheel once you choke twins down to make noise restrictions. OCSBK: goes away ( unless there's a demand for it but with these proposed changes I don't see that happening). 2. F1:13. 2 bracket racing classes are enough in my opinion . F1:18 and then later F1:15 were brought in to give slower racers a chance to shine and win races . The results in these classes are not counted towards overall season points due to too many people using it to sand bag previously and this would be exacerbated if season points were to be awarded , no matter what arbitrary lap time restriction we impose. Also, 1:13 lap times are quite quick at Mission, people who can run those times consistently can and should be placing top 8 in the main classes. 3. 600 SBK. I don't see a need for it as a stock motor 600 is well capable of 1:09 laptimes at Mission ( Robarts ) and 1:10s were routinely achieved 15 years ago on 600s on inferior equipment and worse tires. A 600SBK class would just encourage another arms race in an " affordable " class ( see 250 " production " motor work and other shenanigans that have been going on for years now ). There's always SBK/Ultra and even MWT ( as $30k RS660 builds have shown ) if someone has the burning need to blow through a pile of $$$. Let me know what you guys think, the deadline for rule book proposals is on the 15th. The plan is to have our rules committee meeting on the 21st, finalize rule changes over the next few days and have a 2022 rule book published by December 31st in order to give everyone as much time as possible to get ready for the 2022 season.
In regards to your MWSB rule with 15 yr old 600's, what is the difference between a 2006 R6 and a 2016 R6? Might as well include them all as they are basically the same bike but 2016 has less hp. I would leave mwsb as it is and rename your ocsbk and allow all 600's in as well.
Actually the 06/07 R6s are quite different from the 08-16 ( suspension, fuelling - injectors -, electronics, pistons, ECU , etc. ) so no, they are not the same. Eventually yes, the 08-16 will become eligible for it if we maintain the rolling model year eligibility regulation. So if you want to build a MWSBK R6 ( 06/07 only for 2022 ) feel free to do so but then it wont be eligible to run in 600 SS if has been built to SBK spec.
