No offense taken Ted. I still contend that the pricing has very little to do with losing racers. I honestly think that the biggest reason we have lost races is our race dates, and (based on the feedback here) we have lost the plot in terms of making it fun to race here. We burn up more effort on obscure items instead of ensuring we are an inclusive race club where people WANT to be. I think things like swap meets, car washes, etc. won't do a thing to help the club as long as it isn't a fun place to be. Racers haven't stopped coming to Mission because the race fees are too high. They have stopped coming because the racing is too expensive. You may ask yourself, isn't that the same thing? Answer - NO. What makes racing at Mission too expensive is that there are a number of people who would rather take that time and money elsewhere rather than come to a WMRC event. They haven't stopped racing because the choice is between making rent and racing, they have stopped racing because they would rather take that time and money and take it down the I-5, or have a newer car, or go dirtbiking, or buy a house etc. It used to be that racers didn't want to come to the WMRC because Mission was too dangerous with all the walls and the kink etc. That has now be substantially resolved. Now we have another problem to solve, one that will be difficult to solve because it does not take money, but rather a dedicated effort to change the club's culture. From what I have observed over the last few weeks online, I think if we solve the culture problem the number of racers and the financial problems will take care of themselves. It's like when people quit a job over the amount of pay they get. It isn't that they are underpaid, its that they are underpaid to deal with the sh*t they have to at work.