Middleweight Superbike

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  1. Georgie G

    Georgie G Animal Viking

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    Hello all,

    I move to change the rule

    "Up to 600cc 15 years old and older. (Engine modifications limited to Supersport spec only – see Chapter 8)"
    to either
    Up to year 2000 600cc models. (Engine modifications limited to Supersport spec only – see Chapter 8)
    or
    Up to 600cc 18 years old and older. (Engine modifications limited to Supersport spec only – see Chapter 8)

    I think this would level the playing field and make for some closer racing as HP output is fairly close between these years.

    Thoughts?

    Thank you,
    George
     
  2. *Jay*

    *Jay* Member WMRC Exec

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    Sounds good, but I don't race in that class so take my opinion with a grain of salt
     
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  3. Ryan Whittle

    Ryan Whittle Rider of Orange V-Twins

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    While your adjusting things, freeze the over 600cc at 1997. Unless the idea of an R1, SRAD 750 or TL1000R going head to head with an SV is a good thing.
     
  4. Dean Thompson

    Dean Thompson New Member

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    It would be a complete rule rewrite. Having the 15 years old for 600 and 20 years for bigger bikes keeps it simple. I don't think it's possible, without screwing over some guys who are already in the class on 600's (myself, Paul H, Mel G, and others that were planning on coming out.).
     
  5. Georgie G

    Georgie G Animal Viking

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    I've gotta agree with Ryan on this as the class is called middleweight superbike. How exactly do we define a middle weight? 650 twin? 748? Inline 600, 750, & 1000?
     
  6. Georgie G

    Georgie G Animal Viking

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    When it comes to inclusion I'm all for it, but running a class I'm no longer competitive in makes me not want to run that class. I know we can't make everyone happy, so where's the happy medium. I'll try and pull some data as to the historic and current numbers of bikes running those classes if it will help our rule book committee- just let me know.
     
  7. Dean Thompson

    Dean Thompson New Member

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    SV's have Middleweight Twins and Formula Thunder just for them.
     
  8. Dean Thompson

    Dean Thompson New Member

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    Like running a 15 year old R6 in 600SS?
     
  9. Georgie G

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    They do indeed, but formula thunder rules limit what can be done to an SV, and as you well know, the amount of SV's that run or can "legally" run that class are limited.
     
  10. Georgie G

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    Just an idea but perhaps a split is needed similarly to what we do in FC ---HW and MW.
     
  11. Georgie G

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    I'm just curious as to what numbers MWSB would run if no SV's ran this class.
     
  12. Dean Thompson

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    Yeah, it could be lame if they didn't.
     
  13. Ryan Whittle

    Ryan Whittle Rider of Orange V-Twins

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    Dean - I think the issue is that in 2003, there was a pretty significant step forward in 600cc sportbike performance. The 2003 R6 and ZX6RR were game changers.

    The 1998 R1 was light years ahead of other open class bikes.

    2018 would be the first year that either of those bikes would be eligible for this class.
     

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